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PostSubject: September 23   Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:24 pm


http://www.tribulation-now.org/2014/11/10/newtons-calculations-point-to-sept-23-2015-yom-kippur/

Not so much as what Newton or the blogger said. It's the comments.
Seems like quite a few people are more weird than you know who.

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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:29 pm

I was reading Daniel and Revelation today, and I'm confused as always. But it does seem possible that all/most of the prophesies have been fulfilled..
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:29 am

Isaiah 49:6
He says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth."

A light for the gentiles
OT the example: the Israel nation - there were true followers and there were the Pharisees.
NT the realization: the disciples of the Messiah - there are true followers and there are Pharisees.

1 Corinthians 10:11
These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come.

Warnings G3559: calling attention to, i.e. (by implication) mild rebuke or warning:—admonition.

Whatever happened to Israel served as examples: that would include the prophecies that were realised.

My take is, even if the prophecies were fulfilled, they were fulfilled in Israel as examples. The reality is yet to come.
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:44 pm

I don't quite follow the article saying that the 7 weeks and 62 weeks are separate. To me, it seems straightforward that the 7, 62, and 1 week together make up the 70 weeks from Dan 7:24.

This timeline appears to make sense:
http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Daniel-70-Weeks-Chart

But as you say, it can be a dual prophesy. But that would mean there is more than just the 7 weeks number.
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:22 pm

The chart at herealittletherealittle is the most satisfying except the fact that nothing happened at the end of the last 7.
Some say that's when Paul turned to the gentiles but does not quite fit the timeline.

Does Daniel 9:27 (He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven') suggest something would happen at the end of the last 7? I don't know.

It could be dual prophecy and the realization is the rapture in the middle of the tribulation when the 6th seal opens or the 6th trumpet sounds. Who knows?

Stock market plunged. The beginning of the end?
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:02 am

Don't know about that, but Yeshua cut off in the middle of the seven seems to make sense. Maybe nothing significant at end of the seven, but 3 1/2 years before and after Yeshua's death and resurrection was when people converted?
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:38 pm

Do the seventy weeks in Daniel 9 have anything to do with the time, times and a half (some said 3-1/2 years or 42 months), the days a thousand, two hundred and ninety (1260 days) and the days a thousand, three hundred, thirty and five (1335 days) in Daniel 12?

and 27 things that will happen in September...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ03_m50T-M
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:16 pm

Wish I knew, and thanks for the video.

For my reference:
Daniel 7:25 - time, times and half a time (1260)
Daniel 12:7 - time, times and half a time (1260)
Daniel 12:11 - 1290 days
Daniel 12:12 - 1335 days
Rev 11:2 - 42 months (1260)
Rev 11:3 - 1260 days
Rev 11:9 - three and a half days (1260?)
Rev 12:6 - 1260 days
Rev 12:14 - time, times and half a time (1260)
Rev 13:5 - 42 months (1260)

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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:00 pm

In The four Blood Moon movie:
USA president Truman said he wanted to be Cyrus or something like that.
And this was quoted from the Bible: God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel.
Now if Truman and the modern Israel state indeed were the NT fulfillment for Cyrus and Israel of old, we will be seeing the rising of the Roman Empire in the very near future.
What I'm saying is, we probably should take the book of Isaiah (e.g. chapter 45) into account when it comes to end time prophecies.

The sun turns black like sackcloth:
Actually there are two solar eclipse in 2015 - March 20 and September 13.
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OH2015.html
It's just that people in America are not able to see. Well, they are not able to see many things anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:41 pm

In that case, wouldn't there be a Greek empire as well?

Similar to your video-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB09F2PdXMw
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:42 am

The lunar tetrad argument is actually quite weak. From 1400 and on, there are 16 lunar tetrads (4 blood moons in a row), but people like Mark Biltz only bring up 3 of them (1492, 1948, 1967), which looks like an attempt to skew the facts to make it seem remarkable.

The Alhambra Decree was issued in 1492, but the lunar tetrad was actually from 1493-1494.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEcat5/LE1401-1500.html

Israel declared independence in 1948, but the lunar tetrad was actually 1949-1950.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Declaration_of_Independence
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEcat5/LE1901-2000.html

In 1967, the Six-Day War did indeed fall within the lunar tetrad.

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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:41 am

Some says there were only 7 times not counting 2014-2015 since Christ and in and around each time something significant happened.
On the other hand, the signs of the sun and the moon are not meant to be right in the middle of things as we may see in Matthew 24 and the seven signs in Revelation.

Would there not be physical signs at critical times or at the end of times?

We may try spiritual approaches like the sun represents the truth from YHWH and the moon supposedly His people - and they are pointing towards the end too.

Regarding the Truman being modern Cyrus approach, there might be or might have been Roman Empire and Greek Empire. They are either not here yet or they are here already but we failed to identify them. I think the key word is "watch" and watch we must, carefully.
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:22 am

The tetrads in the two examples above happened after the fact so are not so much signs.

In Matt 24, first thing he said was "watch out that no one deceives you". Subsequently, he said a couple of times to not believe when they say Christ is here.

The lunar tetrads are only visible from certain regions. Does that contradict with Matt 24:27? Mark Blitz made predictions that the tribulation will start in 2008, and he removed them when they didn't come true. The "Four Blood Moons" book was based off of Mark Blitz's predictions and became a best seller (moneymaker). Just pointing this out.

Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Somehow I believe it should be those who study the word (fervently) who will understand the prophecies rather than the astronomers or those who closely follow the news. The end can be any time since we've already been in the end times for so long, but until there is fulfillment of bible prophecy, those are just rumours.
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PostSubject: Re: September 23   Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:45 am

It's interesting to read Matthew 24:29 - it is after the tribulation when the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give it's light.
Not sure if it's important but the moon reflects rather than gives light.

Isaiah, Joel and Yeshua were speaking to the Jews. Must the whole world see the darkening or just the Jews? Just my question.

By the way, feast of trumpet in original language does not refer to trumpet but rather shouting or blowing or blasting.
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